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A nice balance of structure and freedom. I felt very comfortable, free, and supported by everyone.
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I learned to listen to the other instruments talking, learning when to back out and when to be subtle. We actually began having conversations.
*** *** ***
What I liked best was getting to feel the music without the mathematical dissecting one normally associates with rhythm patterns; saying instead of counting.
*** *** ***
I enjoyed having all by old believes scattered. I just want more. Who knows what I might be able to break through. I liked the safe environment to stretch in.
*** *** ***
For people who had never before made music in a group like this, we were sounding pretty okay — amazing what listening to each other can produce.
*** *** ***
This is experience in creating, not in following.
*** *** ***
If even one of us had not been here, the music would have been different.
*** *** ***
Before half way through the playing, I was able to use my voice, along with instrumental tone and volume to accent it, without thinking about doing it, or being self-conscious … thus bring my body into a connected state with the music, and into a meditative state.
*** *** ***
Out of this world. I’m getting goose-bumps. I’m thrilled everything is somehow coming together. I enjoyed listening as much as contributing. I enjoyed the fundamentals of music theory taught in an extremely palatable, easy to understand pattern. Emphasis on listening and sensitivity was superb. I learned I can musically do a lot more than I once believed.
*** *** ***
Personally, Saturday was HUGE for me. I was fearless! WOW! It was the first time for me to stay fearless the whole time. And funny thing, as a result, my voice seemed to cooperate! It felt so good! I was in the flow! I found that it went by so fast. I couldn’t believe it had been so many hours when we ended. Once again, I felt we were just getting started and it was over. I wanted to start the sound back up again and ride wave number two. On the way driving home, C and I couldn’t stop chanting. New development: I’m able to be confident and come up with cool patterns too! (novice-cool, of course. But it’s a big deal for me to do one that I don’t think “how stupid” about.) Overall, I thought it was Excellent. I had some big breakthroughs. I feel totally comfortable now. The fear has largely dissipated! It’s just such a wonderful energy to delve into and swim around in without fear! Thank you thank you thank you. Ahhhhhhhhhhh.
*** *** ***
I’ve learned that I like myself more because I can feel good making music. I now have the tools to make music for myself without judgment.
*** *** ***
I learned to feel comfortable that I can do it by myself, even if it is not in time or perfect.
*** *** ***
I realize that I have not been embarrassed for other people because they are not “doing it the right way”. By celebrating and enjoying another person “just going for it” there is a realization in me that I might be able to allow the same attitude for myself.
*** *** ***
I will be more willing to try new experiences and learn from then instead of being afraid. There is so much to try in this life and I need to start trying.
*** *** ***
These simple vocal adventures we have had are causing big impact in my life – way beyond just voice. And I feel as though I’ve just had a small bite of a tremendous feast. So much more unfolding to look forward to!
*** *** ***
When I let myself enjoy the sounds I’m making, rather than worrying about the way I’m sounding (how silly), there is a noticeable vibration around me. When we all do this, we find a groove.
*** *** ***
To take a risk to express inner feelings and intuition is an important continuing theme for me.
*** *** ***
This process can really help me. I think many people are afraid to “go out on a limb,” but with group support, I feel comfortable being expressive.
*** *** ***
If the steady support began to fail while I was being more expressive, I would fall back and pick up the beat. I think this is what is meant by “being a team player.”
*** *** ***
For me, the creative process is something that helps me to discover my hidden ability. I’ve always felt I was not a creative person. However, this class shows me I AM capable to be creative!
*** *** ***
I have found a great way to release stress and remain connected to my source. I’m heightened and grounded simultaneously. I will be able to use the vocal toning every time I want to clear my mind.
*** *** ***
Several times there were lots of empty spaces which made the music all the more interesting. I stopped completely several times and simply enjoyed the music. When I felt I had something to add, I joined back in. This is soothing, so freeing, after a busy day. It calms by whole body, and most of all my mind. It is all absorbing. When we finished, there was a silence, a peace. All the confusion of the day was over — tranquility reigned.
*** *** ***
We all seemed to get more brave, more intuitive than thoughtful; awareness not based in conscious thought, and yet it is conscious, just not so “linear.”
*** *** ***
I had struggled with piano for five years and was very apprehensive about coming to the workshop. My husband really loves drumming, so I wanted to develop and explore music with him. I was absolutely determined to watch, observe, and not participate. I was worried I might make a fool of myself or annoy other people. The workshop was very non-threatening and other people were just starting to learn music too. To say the syllable rhythms really clicked for me. Without having to follow a specific song, I was able to make up patterns as well as anybody else. Like baby-steps, I felt “I can do this.” I was so excited after the workshop that I went home and just jammed on the piano by myself. Later that night, I felt comfortable and adequate enough to play drums with my husband, who I consider a professional player. It seemed like we were equal partners, both relating to each other’s patterns, instead of me just fooling around while he just tolerated me. During a break at work one day at work, I felt comfortable to just let go and jam on my recorder in front of two friends who read music – without worrying that I wasn’t playing a specific “song.” When my friends asked me what song I was playing, I was totally comfortable to say it was just me jamming. They asked me if I wanted to learn Amazing Grace. Without fear, I just followed along and learned the melody by ear. This experience has been magical for me; virtually miraculous.
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©2017 George Grant’s Drum Talk ®
George Grant’s Drum Talk® and Drum Talk® are Registered Trademarks.
All Rights Reserved.
“I don’t know how I would have got through the chemotherapy without the recordings, Skype sessions, and Sound Healing and Music Meditation Skillstraining.”
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“As I listen to the Energy Prayer recording, it is very clear that somebody is singing specifically for me. This is much different than a commercial CD playing in the background.
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“I’ve had fluid in my lungs for several months now, and have to sleep the best I can — while sitting up. Last night, I listened to about five minutes of the sound healing recording you made for me. Like long fingers entering into my body, I could feel the sounds massaging my soul and allowing a deeper resonance with Spirit to flow in the mix. It was so wonderful that I put the recording on “loop” for the night just before going to bed.
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It is so nice to be healed beyond the body, and my body has responded beautifully to this experience. I must say that listening to the recording provided so much comfort internally that I slept like a baby until the phone woke me up the next morning.
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Wow! I needed to explore my internal world and allow it to breathe and let go and soften. Your gift provides medicine for my soul. I will continue to use it daily through this experience I am going through.
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I wanted to let you know that I saw the doctor yesterday and I found out that my thyroid has returned to normal functioning! Boy, was he shocked — said he had never seen this happen before and was curious as to what I have been doing. So, I told him, including about the sound healing sessions we have been doing over SKYPE. Thanks for your help on this, my friend. I know it has definitely been a part of the healing process.
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“We are off to the hospital again. My daughter and I both laid down on my bed this morning and had the musical massage prayer you sent. I feel like it freed up so much room in my heart, and K was smiling after, as well. She said to thank you for making it for her. (Which for a teenager, is huge!) She felt the vibrations in her chest, and was soothed greatly by your recording. Right after, she wanted breakfast, and the fact that she asked for food was a miracle! She has had no appetite these past few days, so it was a very welcome change. I can’t thank you enough.
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“The situation is so overwhelming, I have a hard time staying grounded. When I listen to the Energy Prayer, I am able to catch my breath again.”
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George, I listened to the “stop smoking prayer” just before I went to bed last night. It was so amazing and so very beautiful. What a powerful prayer. It put tears in my eyes. I cannot put into words just how wonderful the experience was. Thank you, thank you and thank you! I will listen everyday.
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“I did sleep a couple of hours this afternoon, which is rare. Rare to get past chronic pain into deep sleep at night, never mind daytime. Sound really is the only thing that positively affects the places deep in my skull and liver that have so much scar issue and trauma there isn’t any circulation on the physical level. Recently I’ve been dealing with the area in my liver where the blood vessels ruptured as a toddler, and parts of it just haven’t been metabolizing for decades, if ever. It actually began dumping some of the really nasty stuff as liquid bile today, instead of just sitting there like a bunch of old stiff window putty, or busting into my abdomen which would be pretty deadly. This means that both the bile ducts and the blood vessels are routing everything properly, and that’s amazing given the damage.
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The timing for this recording was excellent. I was not wanting to have to resort to surgeons and hospitals. That would be right up there on my most traumatic experiences list.
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My Mom is getting older, but her turn for the worse the other day was a sudden shock to me. I am okay, and she is okay, but I was filled with anxiety. After a few moments, I knew that regular bodywork was not what I needed for this emotional tension. I knew the sound healing would support me, so I called you George.
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I appreciated how you immediately perceived my situation and adapted to it. Without any words, you just let me process my emotions. Now, of course, this was made possible by all the previous work and training with you. Without needed further “training” or instruction, I was able to feel my emotions, feel those emotions physically in my body, and let them process. It was perfect, and now I feel calm and at peace with the entire situation.
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I came to the session very stressed and on the verge of one of those headaches that make you want to kill yourself. I left with no sign of stress and tension in my neck.
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“I thought that I’d worked through the feelings previously, not just shut them out or forgotten about them, so it was strange for them to resurface. As you said, sound healing can help release things.”
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“My shoulder felt awesome all night and all day so far. No pain, no aches, no pain meds.
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“It feels so good to tone! I notice a big difference if I miss a session. It takes a moment to calm down and notice the residue from being so busy. Then, the toning process is like soap – so quick and clean.
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The addition of sound healing to my regular hands-on treatments, totally supports and intensifies the session. The work completed in a typical session takes half the time.
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“To help break free from anger and disappointment about the past, or worrying about the future, this process holds you in “Present Time” unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.”
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“Internal Chi Massage and Intuitive Toning clearly enhance Cranial Sacral Therapy. Without physically touching the client, the vocal toning by itself put the client into a deep still point experience and holds them there for over a half an hour.
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“I didn’t want the session to end! I felt that the chanting, intonation and most especially the resonance of two voices together helped to facilitate tissue changes in my body, as well as affect my body’s energy and chakra system. There were certain blended tones that resonated with my body more than others, and it was at the heights of this resonance that I felt a higher intensity of body changes. I felt relaxed and centered, yet energized, after the session.”
*** *** ***
“By leading the client through some specific active listening and Vibrational Energy Healing self awareness techniques, we were able to facilitate a roughly 80% release of cranial restrictions — without my even having to physically touch the client. After about 10 to 15 minutes of toning with repeated pauses to get feedback from the client and to allow for adjustment of the specific toning technique (cascade, specific overtone type, rhythm, long pure vowels), I applied some cranial techniques and found the remaining approximately 20% of restrictions melted within moments. The client reported her entire head feeling more released than she had felt in six weeks.”
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“I have never seen any technique — any modality of bodywork — that has the ability to re-create the therapist as much as the client as Internal Chi Massage with the Vocal Toning process. The process of intuitive toning and sound healing closes the gap that separates the client from the therapist.”
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“While receiving deep tissue Swedish massage work, I was involved in “active listening” as learned in the toning classes, with a recording of improvised chanting from a class. Both the massage therapist and I found that releases in my tissue were more profound than usual. The active listening allowed me to be in a space where I was not putting up any walls of resistance to the work.”
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“I’ve had an experience over the last couple of days that are directly from the chanting session. The joy that I experienced at that time is impossible to explain or describe. Over the last couple of days I have had some powerful memories coming to me about my birth and the situation that I was born into. They have helped me get rid of a lot of emotional damage that has been with me all of my life. My mother was 17 when I was born and I don’t know if my parents were married or not – They certainly were not when I was conceived. My memories all have to do with how unwanted I was – by my parents and my grandparents. Needless to say, I have (until now) always felt that I was an intrusion and not really wanted in every new situation that I have encountered. That was my first experience and it has taken until now to realize that that feeling is not normal or the platform from which everyone operates from. That being and the experience of the sound healing session were telling me that I was wanted and that I could feel that I had a right to BE and feel comfortable BEing (around) — by experience. At the time — and maybe for the first time — I felt a complete joy and peace and felt it without constraint or restraint. So there is much more going on here than you might know (probably not). It is obvious to me that that session’s effects were profound and directed to the core of my being and resulted in a release of damage and an inflow of understanding that is wonderful.”
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“Internal Chi Massage is a powerful example of how the most gentle interaction between client and practitioner can be the most dramatic healing tool. In the session I experienced, the intent and presence of the practitioners in itself was calming and healing. Once the “symphony” began, however, I felt a higher state of awareness between my mental, emotional, and physical bodies. It brought me directly to some of the areas in my body and life that needed attention. Feeling external sounds affect me internally was like being bathed in balance. Although the therapy is very interactive, the results are very personal, and the individual receiving the therapy is free to take their releases to any level, which makes it a very comfortable modality. It also seems like a great tool for someone who is suffering from conditions where touch is not recommended.”
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I am a seasoned yoga teacher and bodyworker, so it takes quite a bit to impress me. But your process opened my mind in unexpected ways … it’s like something totally new, and yet it’s obviously ancient, like the awakening of the instinctual self that was there all along.
*** *** ***
A nice balance of structure and freedom. I felt very comfortable, free, and supported by everyone.
*** *** ***
I learned to listen to the other instruments talking, learning when to back out and when to be subtle. We actually began having conversations.
*** *** ***
What I liked best was getting to feel the music without the mathematical dissecting one normally associates with rhythm patterns; saying instead of counting.
*** *** ***
I enjoyed having all by old believes scattered. I just want more. Who knows what I might be able to break through. I liked the safe environment to stretch in.
*** *** ***
For people who had never before made music in a group like this, we were sounding pretty okay — amazing what listening to each other can produce.
*** *** ***
This is experience in creating, not in following.
*** *** ***
If even one of us had not been here, the music would have been different.
*** *** ***
Before half way through the playing, I was able to use my voice, along with instrumental tone and volume to accent it, without thinking about doing it, or being self-conscious … thus bring my body into a connected state with the music, and into a meditative state.
*** *** ***
Out of this world. I’m getting goose-bumps. I’m thrilled everything is somehow coming together. I enjoyed listening as much as contributing. I enjoyed the fundamentals of music theory taught in an extremely palatable, easy to understand pattern. Emphasis on listening and sensitivity was superb. I learned I can musically do a lot more than I once believed.
*** *** ***
Personally, Saturday was HUGE for me. I was fearless! WOW! It was the first time for me to stay fearless the whole time. And funny thing, as a result, my voice seemed to cooperate! It felt so good! I was in the flow! I found that it went by so fast. I couldn’t believe it had been so many hours when we ended. Once again, I felt we were just getting started and it was over. I wanted to start the sound back up again and ride wave number two. On the way driving home, C and I couldn’t stop chanting. New development: I’m able to be confident and come up with cool patterns too! (novice-cool, of course. But it’s a big deal for me to do one that I don’t think “how stupid” about.) Overall, I thought it was Excellent. I had some big breakthroughs. I feel totally comfortable now. The fear has largely dissipated! It’s just such a wonderful energy to delve into and swim around in without fear! Thank you thank you thank you. Ahhhhhhhhhhh.
*** *** ***
I’ve learned that I like myself more because I can feel good making music. I now have the tools to make music for myself without judgment.
*** *** ***
I learned to feel comfortable that I can do it by myself, even if it is not in time or perfect.
*** *** ***
I realize that I have not been embarrassed for other people because they are not “doing it the right way”. By celebrating and enjoying another person “just going for it” there is a realization in me that I might be able to allow the same attitude for myself.
*** *** ***
I will be more willing to try new experiences and learn from then instead of being afraid. There is so much to try in this life and I need to start trying.
*** *** ***
These simple vocal adventures we have had are causing big impact in my life – way beyond just voice. And I feel as though I’ve just had a small bite of a tremendous feast. So much more unfolding to look forward to!
*** *** ***
When I let myself enjoy the sounds I’m making, rather than worrying about the way I’m sounding (how silly), there is a noticeable vibration around me. When we all do this, we find a groove.
*** *** ***
To take a risk to express inner feelings and intuition is an important continuing theme for me.
*** *** ***
This process can really help me. I think many people are afraid to “go out on a limb,” but with group support, I feel comfortable being expressive.
*** *** ***
If the steady support began to fail while I was being more expressive, I would fall back and pick up the beat. I think this is what is meant by “being a team player.”
*** *** ***
For me, the creative process is something that helps me to discover my hidden ability. I’ve always felt I was not a creative person. However, this class shows me I AM capable to be creative!
*** *** ***
I have found a great way to release stress and remain connected to my source. I’m heightened and grounded simultaneously. I will be able to use the vocal toning every time I want to clear my mind.
*** *** ***
Several times there were lots of empty spaces which made the music all the more interesting. I stopped completely several times and simply enjoyed the music. When I felt I had something to add, I joined back in. This is soothing, so freeing, after a busy day. It calms by whole body, and most of all my mind. It is all absorbing. When we finished, there was a silence, a peace. All the confusion of the day was over — tranquility reigned.
*** *** ***
We all seemed to get more brave, more intuitive than thoughtful; awareness not based in conscious thought, and yet it is conscious, just not so “linear.”
*** *** ***
I had struggled with piano for five years and was very apprehensive about coming to the workshop. My husband really loves drumming, so I wanted to develop and explore music with him. I was absolutely determined to watch, observe, and not participate. I was worried I might make a fool of myself or annoy other people. The workshop was very non-threatening and other people were just starting to learn music too. To say the syllable rhythms really clicked for me. Without having to follow a specific song, I was able to make up patterns as well as anybody else. Like baby-steps, I felt “I can do this.” I was so excited after the workshop that I went home and just jammed on the piano by myself. Later that night, I felt comfortable and adequate enough to play drums with my husband, who I consider a professional player. It seemed like we were equal partners, both relating to each other’s patterns, instead of me just fooling around while he just tolerated me. During a break at work one day at work, I felt comfortable to just let go and jam on my recorder in front of two friends who read music – without worrying that I wasn’t playing a specific “song.” When my friends asked me what song I was playing, I was totally comfortable to say it was just me jamming. They asked me if I wanted to learn Amazing Grace. Without fear, I just followed along and learned the melody by ear. This experience has been magical for me; virtually miraculous.
*** *** ***
©2017 George Grant’s Drum Talk ®
George Grant’s Drum Talk® and Drum Talk® are Registered Trademarks.
All Rights Reserved.
“The addition of sound healing to my regular hands-on treatments, totally supports and intensifies the sessions. The work completed in a typical session takes half the time.”
*** *** ***
“Sound Healing and Music Meditation Skills clearly enhance Cranial Sacral Therapy. Without physically touching the client, the vocal toning by itself put the client into a deep Still Point experience and holds them there for over a half an hour.”
*** *** ***
“Toning, breathing and body awareness exercises tune us into our bodies and get us out of our heads. Vocal toning completely supports giving and receiving Reiki.”
*** *** ***
“I didn’t want the session to end! I felt that the chanting, intonation and most especially the resonance of two voices together helped to facilitate tissue changes in my body, as well as affect my body’s energy and chakra system. There were certain blended tones that resonated with my body more than others, and it was at the heights of this resonance that I felt a higher intensity of body changes. I felt relaxed and centered, yet energized, after the session.”
*** *** ***
“I recently had an opportunity to use intuitive toning in conjunction with some light touch therapy with a young woman who is expecting her second child. For the last two sessions the client complained of some difficulties with headaches that I felt were caused from constrictions in cranial bones and associated dural tissue. By leading the client through some specific active listening and Vibrational Energy Massage self-awareness techniques, we were able to facilitate a roughly 80% release of cranial restrictions without my even having to physically touch the client. After about 10 to 15 minutes of toning with repeated pauses to get feedback from the client and to allow for adjustment of the specific toning technique (cascade, specific overtone type, rhythm, long pure vowels), I applied some cranial techniques and found the remaining approximately 20% of restrictions melted within moments. The client reported her entire head feeling more released than she had felt in six weeks.”
*** *** ***
“I have never seen any technique — any modality of bodywork — that has the ability to re-create the therapist as much as the client as these body awareness, sonic massage and vocal toning techniques. The process of intuitive toning and sound healing closes the gap that separates the client from the therapist.”
*** *** ***
“While receiving deep tissue Swedish massage work, I was involved in “active listening” as learned in our toning classes, with a recording of improvised chanting from a class. Both the massage therapist and I found that releases in my tissue were more profound than usual. The active listening allowed me to be in a space where I was not putting up any walls of resistance to the work.”
*** *** ***
“Body Resonance” is a powerful example of how the most gentle interaction between client and practitioner can be the most dramatic healing tool. In the session I experienced, the intent and presence of the practitioners in itself was calming and healing. Once the “symphony” began, however, I felt a higher state of awareness between my mental, emotional, and physical bodies. It brought me directly to some of the areas in my body and life that needed attention. Feeling external sounds affect me internally was like being bathed in balance. Although the therapy is very interactive, the results are very personal, and the individual receiving the therapy is free to take their releases to any level, which makes it a very comfortable modality. It also seems like a great tool for someone who is suffering from conditions where touch is not recommended.”
*** *** ***
I am a seasoned yoga teacher and bodyworker, so it takes quite a bit to impress me. But your process opened my mind in unexpected ways … it’s like something totally new, and yet it’s obviously ancient, like the awakening of the instinctual self that was there all along.
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“Another bodywork partner and I were doing hands-on polarity and cranio-sacral therapy combined with sound healing skills for a client in middle age, who had been told by her doctor that she had abnormally low blood pressure. Our client was so unable to feel any body sensations that I was shocked. She couldn’t feel any difference between her feet, knees, upper or lower body. I guided her in some body awareness and resonance exercises until she could feel really feel basic sensations in her body. After much patience, she was able to feel specific sensations in different parts of her body.”
“But the most interesting thing was that the moment our client was able to feel physical sensations, my bodywork partner could feel the client’s energy flowing. Her eyes got quite wide as her highly sensitive sense of touch confirmed the new movement of energy.”
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“I have always wished I could find somebody who could work on me, the way I work on other people. After spending a lot of money, and trying a lot of different people, I never really found that – until today. With the help of your active self-healing skills, I can now “work on myself.”
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“I want to officially thank you for your tender ministrations of live music and bodywork last week. I don’t know how else to describe my time on the table. I floated through the rest of that afternoon and evening in a bit of a blissful fog. As the week has unfolded I have experienced epiphanies regarding my spiritual life, that I believe came about as a result of our time together. It has taken me a few days to absorb and realize what a gift you gave me last Tuesday.”
I so can’t get over the fabulous singing and dancing we all did as most of us didn’t know each other.
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I would have never imagined I would have been moving so openly in front of other people. This re-ignited something inside of me.
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I was so amazed, just standing in the circle – just looking at the other amazing people standing in the circle.
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After plenty of professional music training, it was amazing to have freedom to explore without intense criticism.
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I am reminded what I so often forget: I always have access to spontaneity and beauty. The dance between inside and outside is effortless. Love and acceptance flowing from of all the participants (including me) was palpable. It was about the sharing experience of sound and movement. I know nothing about music or singing, I’ve had no training in that realm but I felt very comfortable actively participating in everything.
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The workshop took me outside of my zone. I have no vocal training so this was great fun to learn to harmonize with the other groups. I’m new so my creative individuality was inhibited at first. The movement allowed me to trust people I had never met as well as myself to move in a way I have not done before.
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It was quite the experience that I am still processing through. My body has told me that I get to strengthen my ankles and knees better from learning in this experience. Not that it was hard movement, or strenuous, I just choose to push my body to areas it is presently not used to, and it responded that it gets to be strengthened in those areas. It was a wonderful experience.
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I love doing workshops that George leads. That night was so far out of my norm it isn’t even funny, but what I would like to be my norm. It really helps get me out of my head and relax. Eventually in that relaxation I hope to be able to really express my inner being even more.
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Had so much fun! I just love your workshops George. Wish you lived here.
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“Dancing can reveal all the mystery that music conceals.”
~ Charles Baudelaire
Saw this quote and it made me think of what I got to do last night. I am so inspired to do some private contemplative movement when I get some time alone.
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I got into a groove and then I did move to a balanced state in the expressing of long and short sounds, harmonizing, trying to pronounce your cool rhythmic patterns, playing with my own inner voice, humanized bird sounds, humming, droning and I just loved the vibratory connection to play and expression and even what it feels like today when I feel the space inside of me. That is a really good part of the experience is how it softens the inside of you and at the same time fills you up. I guess it can charge each energetic center in the body and opens one to a relaxed state of being. And to move and sound together this way in a group of people is quite satisfying. I’m so glad we will do something in the fall. I look forward to it. Thank you for your lovely work.
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What I really liked about this session was the simplicity. No expectations, just fun. I can’t believe there were so many people who knew “bird song”. On my walk this morning I found myself trying to repeat what birds were singing.
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Thank you for the toning-movement workshop! It’s certainly different from us creating magic in our usual, more intimate atmosphere. I really enjoyed the shifting toning-rhythms from group to group, and the opportunity to co-create shapes with more people. I sensed unfolding joy in the room. And what a beautiful space.
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My favorite part of the toning was when it transitioned at one point into hushed bird-nature-wind sounds that went on for some time. I felt a sense of deep release-opening in my heart.
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It was really cool to experience this aspect of you in a larger group setting, George.
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I was totally impressed from the moment you greeted everyone. To have that warmth and the ability to put 29 people at ease is a gift. I think it was that container that allowed us all to open up and enjoy the perfect degree of direction so we could flow in sound and movement. I had a great time. For the first time I was able to dance and be seen without any self-consciousness. Thank you for a great evening.
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My evening with you and the group was absolutely WONDERFUL. My heart and soul were soaring because I have been so neglectful in doing the things that in the past brought me so much JOY — using my voice in song and moving my body. I love toning because you don’t have to remember any words. All you have to do is open your mouth and let the sound come out. I loved the movement part also because it is not about being a professional – it’s just about getting out of your head and into your heart and letting the body flow.
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I have been struggling with a lot of body pain and after that night it was relieved and the next morning I went and did a 75 minute yoga class and today a spinners class. It was just what I needed to remind me of how important it is to care for myself by doing the things that I love.
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I sang a lot in high school and college and then in a woman’s group for 10 years. After the completion of the woman’s group I stopped singing. After the passing of my husband in 2001, I stopped exercising on a regular basis and so my body felt so happy after that Friday night experience.
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It was really nice to see you again and I look forward to your next time here in SLC.
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What enjoyable journey we took last night. Incredibly fulfilling. What a gift you be.
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Your class last night was absolutely Inspiring! It resonated with my soul.
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This event was way too Fun! Can’t wait to do it again.
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A 20 HOUR COURSE FOR CREDIT, BASED ON
By MAUREEN HEARNS, PROFESSOR OF MUSIC THERAPY
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Drum Talk is different than anything I’ve ever done or experienced. I’ll admit that at first it seemed a little strange only because I didn’t really understand how it worked or what the purpose of it was. It was something entirely different than reading notes, or singing on tune. It was something outside of the box, outside of the rules and regulations. There was no messing up really, and whatever came out of your mouth wasn’t wrong because you were free to say or sing what you wanted. There were no wrong notes to sing, or wrong vowel sounds to make, and because of that I felt a sense of freedom, and release from the pressure of messing up, or having to stay within certain bounds. I felt like it was hard for me to really get into it at first though, because I was still bound by the fear of doing it wrong. I didn’t feel comfortable, and it was placing me way out of the norm. I felt more confident with Drum Talk after I lead the group because of the positive feedback that I got from them.
When we started to practice the spontaneous chords at first, it was so hard for us to let go of this musical theory that has been engrained in our minds. Everyone in our group notice a significant change once we decided to stop thinking so hard about “getting it right,” and just to listen and sing. We had to coach each other to do this and we wrote it down on our papers, “don’t think, just sing, dissonance is okay.” Once we practiced together and started to feel more confident and comfortable, it became therapeutic for all of us. The surprising thing to us was that it sounded so much better when we would just listen to each other and sign whatever came out. We would sit in L’s living room on the floor and practice with our eyes closed, and we all notice how relaxing it was for us. It got to the point where it wasn’t my brain that was doing the singing, and I didn’t think of the pitch that I was going to sing before I sang it. It just came out and I would have no idea how it was going to sound until it came out. I loved it!
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The Support/Expansion paradigm really sums up the whole experience. Life is really about flying and being grounded, both musically and in life. At times you need to be the soloist and at times you need to be the support for somebody else. The paradigm makes so much sense to life, you always have to know what part you are playing and how to do it well. As a professional I will mostly play the part of being the support for the clients while they are the Expansion. If you look around the world all relationships deal with Support and Expansion, something so simple, yet so profound. Drum Talk is a wonderful tool for learning about music, but then also for learning about life.
Being put in a situation where things are new to me gave me the ability to have empathy for the clients I’ve worked with this semester and other semesters.
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I was really interested to watch as everyone, in turn, stepped out of their comfort zone and became vulnerable to the group. The members of my group are all fairly close friends, and I am amazed at the things they seem to communicate through Drum Talk that I didn’t know about them. A certain member of my group really intrigues me because out of all the members in the group, this person is the one that I think I know the best. As I watch this person in Drum Talk, I realize that there is a side to her that she doesn’t allow too many people to see. I just love to watch her as she warms up and lets herself be herself.
In the beginning, I was so afraid to make a mistake or mess up the flow of things, but now I realize that mistakes don’t happen. I find Drum Talk therapeutic because I am able to get away from a world crazed for perfection and step into something that I can be good at just because I’m me.
I continued to get more and more frustrated as the sound turned from a group sound into an individual’s idea for a “perfect performance.” Every one in the group had a different idea of a “perfect performance,” so each person was playing their heart out without regards to the group sound. The tension almost exploded as one member of the group tried to coach the other members on the “correct way to play.”
Although this experience was not pleasant and was very frustrating, I learned an important concept that I think will really effect my career as a therapist. I learned that music therapy is NOT about performance. … I felt that I needed to play up to someone else’s expectations, and that when I was playing, it was not coming from me, but was a reflection of the “perfect performance.” I become shy and scared to play, for fear I would play it the “wrong way,” until I realized what was happening and tried to combat the feelings within myself. I decided that I would play, sing, or chant how I thought would add to the group sound and quit worrying about what others would say. As I started to do this, I felt incredibly vulnerable, but kept at it. Others seemed to follow in that same suit and the last fifteen minutes seemed to work really well.
I relate failure to connect with the music to a concept learned in Psychology of Music called performance anxiety. It is defined as focus on the self and not the music.
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I am so grateful I took this course this semester. I had to the opportunity to observe the union of music education and music therapy. I had been reading some general article about music education and I thought how wonderful it would be if the academic world could understand the therapeutic advantages of music and how it could minimize so many of the behavioral problem in the schools today.
When I began this class, I was so intimidated by everyone because most of them were in the program and seemed to know so much more than I do about music. As I continued in the course, I observed by peers and learned that many of them had their own insecurities.
I’ve been blocked by a fear that I won’t be able to improve the levels of my skills or learn the theory. As I experienced this course, I realized they are just fears.
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I felt most vulnerable while doing spontaneous chords. The first few times I was hesitant to join in sometimes because I’d come in with an odd note. Some of the other girls shared the same feelings so we all decided to not worry about what it sounded like for a while but just to let loose and go with whatever came out. It was so interesting because the moment we did that everything fit and we sang as one. Working as a group like that and knowing that I wasn’t the only self-conscious one really helped me.
It has been a real eye opener (or rather, ear opener) to think about listening to what’s going on around me before I add something to the group. I really like what Mr. Grant said in our last meeting, that it’s more about listening than doing so much. We need to relate to our surroundings. I’ve found that one of my favorite ways of doing that is either filling in when another voice rests, taking a rest simultaneously with another voice, or echoing small portions of another voice.
The support/expansion paradigm is a wonderful system. Whatever role I play, I feel like I am part of a group and am doing something important.
The most important personal musicianship skill that I’ve developed has by far been the ability to listen to what is going on around me. I still have a long way to go before I can say I’m where I want to be, but I’m working at it. It’s interesting that this thought of creating my own part based off what’s going on around me had never occurred to me.
Surprisingly, all my feelings of vulnerability of any degree were gone in these last meetings. I was actually very excited in our last class meeting to have the opportunity to do the expansion part of the pyramid and improvise singing lyrics. Even though the class is full of incredibly talented singers and musicians and I’ve never considered myself to have a very impressive solo voice, I felt free. Any cares of what others thought were gone as I took the opportunity to express myself in a very rare way.
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I also found it very cool how every group had their own interpretation of how to use Drum Talk and turn it into a song. Each group sounded completely different and distinct from the others.
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I noticed at the beginning of the class, everyone was really stiff and hesitant to try Drum Talk. By the end of the class we had people laughing, dancing, and singing in groups. It was okay to make mistakes because we were all learning. You have the chance to explore and lose yourself in talking through the drum.
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I felt vulnerable and scared and didn’t want to put myself out there again. Improvisation in front of peers is always a huge risk. My weak areas were evident from day one and I was not very confident. I realized that when I felt constrained or limited or in a situation with too much structure, I felt a lot of pressure and I didn’t perform well, as opposed to having less structure and flexibility. Windows opened for me especially when I had the opportunity to do some vocal improvisation with B. I knew I could improvise, but I didn’t realize I could “let it loose” at such a level as we did with each other. It was so liberating to experience that and to hear my voice making such unique sounds, and even somewhat strange sounds, but it was as if I was beginning to know a part of me that had not previously been discovered.
I feel there are many ways in which the information in this course can be applied in clinical settings.
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The support that I received from my group members gave me so much confidence in myself and my abilities. We made each other sound better together then we would have sounded alone. It’s fun to support people with them knowing it. It gives them a chance to fly higher.
We also became very comfortable as friends and I love that the Drum Talk setting almost demanded that of us. We were required to build relationships of trust with each other so that would could be effective in our Drum Talk exercises and project.
Therapeutically, Drum Talk was great. I can see how it could do the same thing between clients and therapists as it did between the members of my group. It creates a very warm supportive environment. Also, it forces us to come out of our comfort zones a little and grow in our strengths and weaknesses.
The setting was very non-threatening and that really helped me to experiment more because I could make mistakes and no one criticized me for it. That is a rare thing in the music world.
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I’ve now realized that it is SO much more than just drumming or chanting random syllables. The improvisation side of it really allows for free expression and self-acceptance. Before this semester the very idea of improvisation scared me to death and left me feeling incompetent and unprofessional as a musician. I feel like the ability has always been suppressed within me and that it has finally be able to surface in a comfortable safe environment where I knew what to do.
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As a group we really wanted to focus on our voices and improvisation. Not all of us however feel that our voice is a very strong instrument. The voice is so personal and very vulnerable. It is a person’s own instrument, attached to them. A judgment passed on one’s own voice is like a judgment passed on their soul.
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I have always had super intimidation problem with improvisation, and yet I feel that Drum Talk, for me, has created a risk-free improvisation environment.
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I like how even though Drum Talk has boundaries and structure, there is so much possibility for freedom of expression within those boundaries. The thing that I am learning about Drum Talk is that it is simply a matter of familiarity and practice; anyone can do it.
At some of my practicum sites I have come in contact with clients who are so apprehensive about playing an instrument. They make statements about how they are not musical or how they were never good at a certain instrument. I love how this specific method breaks down playing a drum, or other instrument into a small verbal task. This gives the client the chance to slowly work their way into playing the instrument. I like that Drum Talk makes a musical instrument out of your voice.
A person’s personality is often clearly shown through the way they apply their Drum Talk techniques. Some stick to the standard Drum Talk words. Others sing. Some are loud, some are quiet. Some are quick to volunteer to lead and others begin to look ill when they realize it is their turn. This is so interesting, especially being a music therapy major and being constantly interested in personal expression through music, and how that relates to other areas of their lives.
I think one of the most valuable things that I have learned this semester is how to be aware of all of the different group dynamics. This skill will be very useful to me when doing any type of group intervention, especially those using group improvisation.
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I’ll admit, I was very intimidated as I joined in and did thing on my own. I have never had a problem being in front of people, but I did then. … After a while, we were all having a blast, working together to create music. I love how Drum Talk helps people learn to work together a lot better.
Learning about ourselves usually requires experience. Through that experience, we can grow and become so much more than we were. I have had that chance to grow because of Drum Talk. I am truly a different person because of all the experience I was able to have while participating in this class.
My family and friends consider me to be an outgoing person. I love to be around and interact with people as much as possible. I have been like this all my life. Going into this class, I had no real concerns. After the first five minutes, my opinion changed. It was exciting, but a little intimidating at the same time. When the first class was over, I couldn’t believe that those feelings were still occurring. I was insecure about it all because it was so new and different from anything I had ever experienced. It was almost hard for me to say those nonsense Drum Talk words and it scared me to imagine improvising with them in front of everyone. This really bothered me because usually I didn’t care about doing things in front of other people. I assumed these silly feelings would disappear in a few days or a week, after I practiced a little. This assumption was wrong. That comfortable feeling didn’t come until a few weeks before the class ended. But, the amazing thing is that it did come. I have gained so much confidence from this class, it is really hard to believe. I now have the desire to teach other about Drum Talk, because I want them to experience all that I have.
Music has always been in my life. Through Drum Talk, I have been able to increase that connection with music even more. I was able to really reach deep inside myself and explore so many areas of music that I never knew were possible. I have gained a love for improvisation.
I have been so lucky to experience Drum Talk. I had no idea when I was really getting into, and I am so glad I took this class. Learning so much about myself and gaining confidence is priceless. Drum Talk can help so many other populations, besides the ones mentioned. Music is amazing the way it can help and heal people. I am looking forward to learn more about Music Therapy and some day being able to call myself a Music Therapist. It is truly amazing field of work.
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Having an open mind free of fear and pre-concepts is absolute essential in a world of healing and health with music; in a field that relies so heavily on improvisation in all its forms.
I’m not only learning a good deal about team work and communication, and experiences such as groupthink, but also improving skills such as problem solving, cooperation and compromise, and the benefits of positive reinforcement and yes, even just plain listening, something most people have not learned to develop real well.
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I remember a few times when the class was performing together, being completely in awe because such a large group, doing a number of different things with no predetermined plan, become very unified.
I realize that music therapy is all about “being in the moment,” and it still scares me. But I’ll get there. I feel like this class is dragging me by the hair to get there, and I think it’s a really good thing.
Quite frankly, this class scared me to death. I look back on the first class period, and I can remember very sweaty hands. I wasn’t sure if I could handle the twelve more hours of Drum Talk and improvisation.
I grew up learning classical piano and taking classical voice lessons. In my training in both areas, I was never given the opportunity to stray from the ink to play what I wanted. I always felt like I was able to express my feelings through the music anyway, and I feel that I learned how to make the pieces I played “my own.” But I have never had the chance to explore what else was inside. When I learned that Drum Talk was a lot about improvisation, I was mortified. The idea of learning “how to” improvise musically was so intimidating, especially in front of so many great musicians. I really enjoyed participating in the groups, but dreaded leading them. Having many opportunities to play the leader, and to even improvise vocally on my own, I have learned that there is a lot inside that is good, and worth putting “out there.” Looking back at my first experience therapeutically, I can see how improvisation can really help a person to “let it out.” Once I was able to let my guard down, I felt very free, and it felt very good. I still have a lot of inhibitions, but I feel that I have taken a great big step in the right direction.
Overall, this class was a great learning experience for me. I learned how to “let go.” I know that I still have to work on that, but I can now tell myself that I can. During this semester, I have learned that I have more “walls” than I thought I had, and I still have feelings that I thought I had worked through. My feelings of vulnerability have helped me understand more of what a client will feel. I have felt what it is like to be in a safe environment, being free, and I want to help others experience that.
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It is neat to see it becoming something more than just random syllables thrown together. I like how the moments of silence really add to the piece as well. At first we kind of thought that more was better, but we’re beginning to weave the pieces together in ways that complement rather than contradict each other.
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I now listen to my percussion class with a new ear. I can actually start to begin thinking Drum Talk words when I am drumming my rhythms and when I practice at home. I say it out loud and it helps me remember the rhythms so much better.
